“In a wide variety of human activity, achievement is not possible without discomfort.”
Let’s talk about limits.
What is your true ceiling? How do you frame the outer edge of your capabilities?
Are these checks and balances truth? or are they just beliefs you accept as fact?
How you answer these questions have profound implications not only on your perception of potential, but on virtually every significant decision you make, the challenges you agree to tackle and ultimately how you view yourself and the world you inhabit.
Today’s conversation asks us to rethink such restrictions — both self-imposed and external — suggesting that we are all capable of so much more than we allow ourselves to believe. That, in a word, each and every one of us holds the power to transcend our sense of what is truly possible.
Because according to this week’s guest, limits are an illusion.
Meet Alex Hutchinson.
A National Magazine Award-winning journalist, Alex began his career as a physicist, putting his University of Cambridge Ph.D to work as a researcher for the U.S. National Security Agency. A two-time finalist in the 1,500 meters at the Canadian Olympic Trials, Alex spent his free time during the NSA years training and competing as a middle- and long-distance runner for the Canadian national team. By this I mean he is a good runner. Very good.
Alex subsequently received a masters in journalism from Columbia University and today he writes about the science of endurance for Runner’s World and Outside, while frequently contributing to little-known publications like the New York Times, The New Yorker and Toronto’s Globe and Mail. FiveThirtyEight recently named him one of their “favorite running science geeks” and he was also one of only two reporters granted access to cover Breaking2 — Nike’s top secret training project to break the two-hour marathon barrier.
I have been a fan and avid reader of Alex’s writing over the last few years. But what inspired me to invite him on the podcast is his phenomenal new book, Endure: Mind, Body, and the Curiously Elastic Limits of Human Performance*. A page-turning must read, it blends cutting edge science and incredible storytelling in the spirit of Malcolm Gladwell (who penned the foreword) to suggest the seemingly physical barriers we encounter when tackling a challenge are set as much by the brain as by the body.
In other words, the horizons of performance are much more elastic than we once thought.
Indeed, the new frontier of endurance is not the body, but the mind.
Borne from a decade of intensive research shadowing elite athletes and traveling to high-tech labs around the world, this conversation with Alex beckons us to better understand and ultimately more fully express express our innate abilities. And it’s a roadmap laden with strategies, techniques and tools to manifest that untapped potential lurking within.
Alex’s examination of limits is not restricted to physical performance. Defined broadly as “the struggle to continue against a mounting desire to stop,” Alex suggests that endurance is best understood as surprisingly universal, applicable to essentially every challenge we face, be it athletic, academic, professional or emotional.
So even if you are not an athlete, my hope is that this conversation and the book that inspired it will leave you rethinking your limits, so that you may reach higher, push farther, and ultimately become better in whatever discipline you are devoted to mastering.
I sincerely hope you enjoy the exchange.
Peace + Plants,
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Background, Context & Reference
- Connect with Alex: Website | Facebook | Twitter
- The New Yorker: Articles by Alex Hutchinson
- Runner’s World: Articles by Alex Hutchinson
- Outside: Alex’s Sweat Science Blog
- The Globe And Mail: Articles by Alex Hutchinson
- The Globe And Mail: Diet wars: How low-carb and low-fat weight-loss schemes are based on the same homespun wisdom by Alex Hutchinson
- Runners World: What Defines the Ultimate Limits of Your Endurance? by Alex Hutchinson
- The Verge: Mind over matter? Alex Hutchinson explains the role of the brain when it comes to the limits of human endurance by Angela Chen
- NY Times: Are Physical Limits All in Our Heads? by Alex Hutchinson
- Vox: A physicist reveals the secrets of human endurance by Umair Irfan
- Quartz: Malcolm Gladwell and elite runner Alex Hutchinson explore the benefits of enduring pain
- Daily Beast: The Limits of Human Endurance Are Embedded In the Brain
- Business Insider: 7 performance-boosting habits top Olympic athletes have in common by Kevin Loria
- WSJ: The Mental Tricks of Athletic Endurance by Alex Hutchinson
- NY Post: How athletes train themselves to defy the body’s limits by Susannah Cahalan
- The Star: 5 Olympic-themed reads that deserve the gold
- Irish Times: Endurance: mind tricks to get the most out of your workout by Niamh Horan
- TDN.com: ‘Endure’ is a razor sharp book by Terri Schlichenmeyer
- Book: Which Comes First, Cardio or Weights?: Fitness Myths, Training Truths, and Other Surprising Discoveries from the Science of Exercise* by Alex Hutchinson
- Book: Big Ideas: 100 Modern Inventions That Have Transformed Our World (Popular Mechanics)* by Alex Hutchinson
- Book: The Sports Gene: Inside the Science of Extraordinary Athletic Performance* by David Epstein
- Book: Thinking, Fast and Slow* by Daniel Kahneman
Notable People Discussed In Today’s Podcast
- David Goggins: Navy SEAL, Endurance Athlete and podcast guest
- Shalane Flanagan: Olympic long-distance runner, holds the American record times in the 3000 meters, 5000 m and 15K road race and podcast guest
- Brad Stuhlberg & Steve Magness: authors of Peak Performance: Elevate Your Game, Avoid Burnout and Thrive with the New Science of Success* and podcast guests
- Tim Noakes: South African scientist, and an emeritus professor in the Division of Exercise Science and Sports Medicine at the University of Cape Town
- Samuele Marcora: Prof in Exercise Physiology investigating the mind/brain in endurance performance, fatigue & physical activity
- Eliud Kipchoge: Kenyan long distance runner, and the 2016 Olympic marathon gold medallist. He has been described as “the greatest marathoner of the modern era”
- Usain Bolt: retired Jamaican sprinter and world record holder in the 100 metres, 200 metres and 4 × 100 metres relay
- Jens Voight: German former professional road bicycle racer for several teams, the last one being UCI ProTeam Trek Factory Racing
- Tom McGhee: Canadian world champion powerlifter and strongman competitor, set a world record with a 535 kilograms (1,179 lb) partial deadlift from 18″ off the floor during the 1983 World’s Strongest Man competition
- Jim Spivey: Coach, speaker and former American middle-distance runner and Olympian
Related Podcasts You Might Enjoy
- RRP #266: Navy SEAL David Goggins Is The Toughest Athlete On Earth — Thoughts On Mindset The 40% Rule & Why Purpose Always Trumps Motivation
- RRP #293: How To Achieve Peak Performance — And Sustain It — With Brad Stulberg & Steve Magness
- RRP #021: Chris Hauth On Endurance Training For Maximum Results
- RRP #252: Dr. Michael Gervais On Elite Performance & The Psychology of Self-Mastery
- RRP #246: Shalane Flanagan & Elyse Kopecky: How To Run Fast, Eat Slow And Love The Journey
- RRP #351: Alex Honnold: The Free Soul Of Free Solo Climbing On Fear, Risk, Mindset & What It Means To Be Truly Alive
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