“The biggest factor in who made it to the next level wasn’t talent or work ethic. It was a willingness to keep plugging away through all the hard times.”
Let’s talk about doping.
Throw cycling into the conversation and emotions are sure to run hot. It’s an emotional subject for reasons both obvious and obscure. A flashpoint that divides loyalties, pitting our innate sense of fairness against our natural impulse to forgive.
I have opinions on the matter. But my perspective is far from set in cement. Because I am aware that it’s formed from the sidelines, as an observer of a very insular subculture beyond my direct experience, and to which I am not privy. Unless you were actually there — in the unfortunate and precarious position so many athletes across so many sports abruptly find themselves — my opinion is that we should not be so quick to judge.
Everybody thinks they would make the right choice. I certainly do. But that’s just projection. The truth is that you don’t actually know what you would do. Connecting with this impulse helps me empathize with those who went astray. Is that a good thing? I honestly don’t know.
Phil Gaimon did make the right choice. A somewhat polarizing figure in the cycling community, today he tells the tale.
Overcoming childhood obesity to achieve his dream of riding professionally, over the course of his professional cycling career Phil competed on several established domestic teams like Jelly Belly, Bissel and Optum-Kelly Benefit as well as high profile, international UCI teams like Garmin Sharp in 2014 and Cannondale–Drapac in 2016 before hanging up his bib shorts at the end of last year. Well, not exactly, but I’ll get to that part in a minute.
Along the way he has raced and trained with the best. Now he writes about his experiences, coming clean on what transpired behind cycling’s shrouded curtain with wit and a healthy dose of comedic self-deprecation. He is the author of Pro Cycling On $10 A Day and Ask a Pro. His newest tome, Draft Animals: Living The Pro Cycling Dream (Once In A While) — an entertaining memoir about achieving his childhood dream of riding pro on the World Tour and what happened to him when he achieved it — hits bookstores October 10, 2017.
When he’s not writing books, Phil is an active blogger and contributor to various cycling publications like Velo News. He also hosts The Peloton Brief Podcast and is the founder of Phil’s Cookie Fondo – a series of cycling adventures between 32 and 113 miles taking place October 15 that showcases Malibu’s great climbs (and apparently involves a lot of cookies).
Back to the bib shorts. He didn’t exactly hang them up. In fact, Phil has spent the better part of the last year pursuing what he calls The Worst Retirement Ever — an endeavor in which he is attempting to clock the fastest-ever recorded times on as many prestigious cycling climbs he can visit, both domestic and abroad — known as King Of The Mountain (KOM) honors on Strava, multisport’s most popular workout tracker social network. Motivated to reclaim all the KOMs held by previously banned riders, it’s a quest motivated by principle, for the sake of clean sport, and it’s a challenge he has been chronicling in a series of entertaining videos on YouTube.
This is a conversation about his childhood growing up as an overweight kid. It’s about how he first started riding bikes to lose weight and how he turned his love of cycling into a career. We address the misconceptions of what it’s actually like to ride pro and we cover his more recent KOM adventures.
And yes, we talk about doping — cycling’s sordid history with PEDs, the hows and whys behind Phil’s persistent refusals to dope, what it means to him to race clean and stay clean, and what he foresees for the future of the sport he loves.
But at its core, this is a conversation that demystifies one of the world’s most unique, most colorful and most drama-riddled professional sports through the eyes of someone who actually lived through it.
Final note: we recorded this conversation back in mid-April. Apologies to Phil and his fans that it took so long to publish this one — but hey I’m busy too. Along the way, Phil has since tackled a variety of new climbs, besting KOMs along the way.
I enjoyed this one. I hope you do too.
P.S. – Pretty sure I mispronounced Phil’s last name in the intro. It’s Guy-mon, not Gay-min. Inexcusable. Sorry about that Phil.
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Background, Context & Reference
- Connect with Phil: Website | Strava | Facebook | Twitter | Instagram | YouTube
- Connect with Phil’s Fondo: Website | Facebook | Instagram
- Book: Pro Cycling on $10 a Day: From Fat Kid to Euro Pro* by Phil Gaimon
- Book: Ask a Pro: Deep Thoughts and Unreliable Advice from America’s Foremost Cycling Sage* by Phil Gaimon
- Velonews: Phil’s Gaimon’s ‘Worst retirement ever’ by Phil Gaimon
- Sports Illustrated: Meet the Strava troll: Former pro cyclist Phil Gaimon is out to break all your records by Tom Taylor
- Road Bike Action Magazine: Phil Gaimon’s Strava Mission by Troy Templin
- Cycling News: Phil Gaimon’s Strava KOM hunting Cannondale SuperSix EVO by Ben Delaney
- Cycling News: WADA struggling over legality of naming Operacion Puerto athletes
- Cycling News: Surprise Paris-Roubaix debut for Phil Gaimon
- Cycling Porn: Watch: Ex-Pro Phil Gaimon Lays Down A Wattage Bazooka To Take Strava KOM
- Cycling Tips: Gaimon begins retirement by hunting banned rider’s Strava KOMs by Peter Flax
- Cycling Weekly: Watch: Former pro Phil Gaimon goes after another KOM in latest ‘Worst Retirement Ever’ video by Henry Robert Shaw
- The Conway Daily Sun: Gaimon wins Mount Washington Auto Road Hillclimb by Lloyd Jones
- White Mountains TV: Cyclists tackle the 45th Mount Washington Auto Road Bicycle Hillclimb
- Grand Fondo Guide: Phil Gaimon sets new Strava KOM on Hawaii’s Mauna Kea
- Vice: So Wait, Who Actually Won All Those Tour De France Titles? by Jeremy Repanich
Notable People Discussed
- Kevin Systrom: CEO of Instagram, cycling enthusiast
- Mark Bissell: Chairman and CEO at Bissell Inc.
- Tom Zirbel: professional cyclist
- Mark Cavendish: professional cyclist from the Isle of Man, riding for Team DiData
- Tom Boonen: Belgian former professional road bicycle racer who won the 2005 world road race championship
- Peter Sagan: European and two-time World Champion cyclist
- Tom Danielson: former professional road racing cyclist and coach
- Ben Bostrom: professional motorcycle racer.
- Chris Horner: 2013 Vuelta a España Champion
- Casey Wasserman: entertainment executive, sports agent executive and podcast guest
- Seamus Mullen: award-winning chef, restaurateur, cookbook author, cycling enthusiast and podcast guest
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