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Born To Run Free (For a Lifetime) with Christopher McDougall + Eric Orton

By December 8, 2022January 22nd, 2024No Comments
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Episode #722



Reaching your athletic peak is a laudable goal. But ambition extracts a physical and mental cost.

How do you break free from cycles of burnout and injury and fall in love with running again? Today we cover this topic and more with legends Christopher McDougall + Eric Orton.

Back in 2011, just before the start of this podcast, a hugely influential book was released that greatly inspired me both as a writer and as an athlete. A book so impactful it made the entire running world stop and pay attention. That book was Born To Run—a wildly fascinating and inspiring read about a hidden tribe of super athletes called the Tarahumara and the secrets behind their ability to run insane distances on wafer-thin sandals.

Now over a decade later, I’ve finally had the privilege to sit down with the author of that mega bestseller Christopher McDougall and his running coach Eric Orton, who is also the co-author of the sequel to Born to Run. Yes, you read that right—Born To Run 2 is here.

“Exercise isn’t a punishment. Exercise is a joyful adventure.”


In this conversation we dive deep into the world and stories of Born to Run, as well as talk with Eric about the practical – naturalistic – running drills, principles, practices and philosophy to become bulletproof to injury – and set you up for a lifelong love affair with running.

The visually inclined can watch it all go down on Youtube. As always, the podcast streams wild and free on Apple Podcasts and Spotify.

This conversation is packed with a battery of actionable practices and strategies to help you strengthen and sustain your running practice. I hope you learn as much as I did.


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