“Meditation is not about feeling a certain way. It’s about feeling the way you feel.”
Joining the podcast for a second time is my friend Dan Harris, an ABC News correspondent who serves up co-anchor duties on both Nightline and the weekend edition of Good Morning America.
In one of the greatest side hustles of all time, Dan has distinguished himself in recent years as a leading voice in the advocacy of meditation as a means to live both happier and more fulfilled.
For those unfamiliar, Dan’s journey is compelling. An embedded war correspondent covering everything from mass shootings and natural disasters to conflicts in Myanmar, Afghanistan and the Middle East, including six visits to war-torn Iraq, Dan’s mental well-being began to suffer, his stress escalating with each overseas deployment. Depression, anxiety and PTSD ensued, followed by self-medicating with drugs like cocaine and ecstasy. Ultimately, these factors conspired to take a serious toll on Dan’s mental and physical health, culminating in a meltdown of epic proportions in 2004 when he suffered an on-air panic attack while delivering the news that was witnessed by 5 million people.
Although unsure as to the cause of his breakdown, it was a wake up call that led him to seek professional help. At the same time, in a bizarre stroke of synchronicity, Peter Jennings assigned Dan to begin covering stories on faith, religion and spirituality. Dan was less than enthusiastic about this, but ultimately it was this exploration that that eventually led Dan to understand that the source of his problems was the very thing he always thought was his greatest asset: the incessant, insatiable voice in his head. A thinking mind which had both propelled him through the ranks of a hyper-competitive business yet also led him to make the decisions that provoked his on-air freak-out.
We all have that voice in our head. It’s what has us losing our temper unnecessarily, checking our email compulsively, eating when we’re not hungry, and fixating on the past and the future at the expense of the present. Most of us would assume we’re stuck with this voice – that there’s nothing we can do to rein it in – but Dan stumbled upon an effective way to do just that.
It’s a protocol he initially dismissed as useless, but which ultimately not only saved his life, but gave him a new one altogether:
After learning about research that suggests meditation can do everything from lower your blood pressure to essentially rewire your brain, Dan took a leap of faith. A deep dive into the underreported world of CEOs, scientists, and even prison guards and marines who are now using it for increased calm, focus, and happiness. Dan chronicles his experiences in his highly entertaining and illuminating memoir, 10% Happier and provides a practical guide to the actual hows and whys of meditation in the recently released, 10% Happier: Meditation For Fidgety Skeptics.
In many ways, Dan is the perfect ambassador for meditation. The furthest thing from a monk or a guru, he’s a professional family man living in New York City — a highly relatable, very human being who, just like all of us, is trying to live just a little bit better and a little bit happier in the face of life’s daily pressures.
This is a conversation about the power of meditation to combat and overcome the thought patterns and behaviors that drag us down. It’s about the science that establishes meditation as an effective tool to quite literally rewire our brains — all while lowering our stress response, reducing our blood pressure, and alleviating depression.
But mostly, this is a conversation directed at the skeptic.
Perhaps you’re convinced meditation wont work for your unique problems. Maybe you just don’t quite understand how to do it. Or you dismiss it as a frivolous waste of time. If so, then this wide ranging conversation with Dan picking up where we left off last time (RRP #97), is appointment listening.
For the visually inclined, you can also watch our conversation on YouTube.
I sincerely hope you enjoy the conversation.
Peace + Plants,
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Check out Dan’s latest book: Meditation for Fidgety Skeptics: A 10% Happier How-to Book*
Background, Context & Reference
- Connect with Dan: Twitter | Facebook | Instagram
- 10% Happier: Mobile App | Website | Facebook | Instagram
- Book: 10% Happier: How I Tamed the Voice in My Head, Reduced Stress Without Losing My Edge, and Found Self-Help That Actually Works–A True Story* by Dan Harris
- ABC News: (VIDEO) Dan Harris opens up about “Meditation for Fidgety Skeptics” | Good Morning America
- ABC News: (VIDEO) How an On-Air Panic Attack Improved My Life by Dan Harris
- YouTube: (VIDEO) Dan Harris: “10% Happier” | Talks At Google
- The New York Times: The First Time I Rushed My Son to the E.R.by Dan Harris
- The Washington Post: ABC’s Dan Harris: How distraction can make you a better meditator, and other advice for meditation skeptics by Emma Seppälä
- NPR News: ‘Meditation For Fidgety Skeptics’ Offers Practical Advice For Stressed-Out Cynics by Rachel Martin
Notable People Discussed
- Jeff Warren: meditation teacher, an explorer of consciousness, and co-author of the bestselling Meditation for Fidgety Skeptic*
- Sharon Salzberg: teacher of Buddhist meditation practices in the West, co-founder of the Insight Meditation Society, New York Times Best selling author and podcast guest
- Joseph Goldstein: author and one of the first American vipassana teachers, co-founder of the Insight Meditation Society
- Dr. Mark Epstein: author (Going To Pieces Without Falling Apart*) and psychotherapist, integrating both Buddha’s and Sigmund Freud’s approaches to trauma
- Manoush Zomorod: author and host of the Note To Self podcast on NPR
Notable Books Discussed
- The Year of Living Biblically: One Man’s Humble Quest to Follow the Bible as Literally as Possible* by A.J. Jacobs
- Emotional Intelligence: Why It Can Matter More Than IQ* by Daniel Goldman
- What Makes Sammy Run?* by Budd Schulberg
- Big Magic: Creative Living Beyond Fear* by Elizabeth Gilbert
Related Podcasts You Might Enjoy
- RRP #97: Dan Harris: How A Panic Attack On National TV Led To Meditation As The Path To Happiness
- RRP #298: Meditation Master Sharon Salzberg On Real Love & The Art Of Mindful Connection
- RRP #43: Charlie Knoles: Mastering The Mind With The Master Of Meditation
- RRP #179: From A Life Of Matter To A Life That Matters: Jason Garner’s Journey From Music Industry CEO To Spiritual Warrior
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