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On Running Across America For A GMO-Free USA

By January 23, 2014August 10th, 202312 Comments

What do you do when your twelve-year-old son announces he’s going to run across America?

That’s the dilemma Brett & Kris Wilcox faced, hoping that in time their son David would simply forget about his crazy idea —

it’s a phase….he’ll grow out of this fantasy eventually……right?”

Well, David refused to let up.  In fact, he doubled down.  On the heels of becoming the fastest freshman cross country runner in his region of Alaska, David became more determined than ever to become the 2nd 15-year old ever to complete a transcontinental run.

Needless to say, his parents had a decision to make – quash their son’s dream, or dig deep to help make it happen.  I am happy to say they chose the latter. And on January 18, 2014, David and his father — supported by his mother Kris and 13-year old sister Olivia — began their coast-to-coast attempt, launching from Huntington Beach, CA en route to Washington, D.C.

David has his motivations.  But in order to run alongside his son, Brett needed his own.

As a Licensed Professional Counselor, Brett has spent his career helping people heal from the poison and pain they’ve endured at the hands of bullies and batterers.  Now, he’s turned his attention to global bullies—bullies like the giant chemical companies that poison the Earth, our political processes and our agricultural system. The author of We’re Monsanto: Feeding the World Lie After Lie*, Brett knows a thing or two about GMO’s, the ills of factory farming, the depletion of our soil, and the future of food.

So Brett — and David — are running across America to say enough is enough. And during the course of our conversation we dig deep into these issues — what exactly these companies are doing to our food system, why we should care, and what we can do about it.

It’s a fascinating conversation and one I am proud to share with you.  What this humble family has set out to accomplish is extraordinary.  But they can’t do it alone.  Every great accomplishment requires the support of a great team.  They need all the help they can get.  So let’s be that team for them.  Towards that end, I implore you to visit their Indiegogo fundraising page and — if it feels right to you — consider contributing to their mission and advocacy — a cause that affects us all, irrespective of dietary preference, geographical location or political prediliction.

I hope you enjoy the conversation!

NOTE: Unfortunately we did experience some audio quality issues with the recording.  Just when I think I have this whole thing figured out!  Something about my mic being too hot and the others lower.  I don’t know.  Tyler worked really hard to clean it up, but it’s not perfect.  Hope it’s not too distracting, and all I can say is that I will continue to try harder, learn and do better.  Give Tyler a shoutout in the comments below, he’s doing a great job as my producer.  And all the music cues are his own original compositions.


*Disclosure: Books and products denoted with an asterisk are hyperlinked to an affiliate program. We are a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for us to earn fees by linking to and affiliated sites.

Thanks for listening and thanks for the support!


  • Peter says:

    Tyler, you have been doing a great job. It is always a process, keep up the good work. Can you help your dad get the tshirts going? I’m not sure if we will have the national debt paid off or he will finally get the shirts up for sale. Lol. Got to bust your chops about that Rich!

  • Kelly Mahoney says:

    I’m very skeptical about the dangers of GMOs which are regulated by the FDA, USDA and EPA. Monsanto is a big company, but is it really rational to think they have enough influence to conspire with all the governmental agencies to pull the wool over the public’s eyes? I think not. This kind of conspiracy thinking reminds me of the paleos who trash George McGovern’s dietary guidelines in the late 70s.

  • Patrick says:

    This interview was awesome. Thank you for the story of this father son duo who are fighting the large Monsanto corp. and the run they are doing. I would really love if you could do a after run interview with the two. I found this article On BBC news website about a GMO product hitting the stores soon and how not good it will be. Take care and thanks again

  • JasonRH says:

    Awesome interview, these guys are inspiring.

    You have to live under a rock to think this is a conspiracy theory. The FDA and USDA are run by former Monsanto executives. It has been a long time since those agencies actually protected consumers, which is what they are supposed to do. Research studies (not funded by Monsanto) all over the world have shown the harm done to our bodies and ecosystem by GMO crops. We aren’t conspiracy theorists, we are rational individuals who want the veil to be lifted.

    And Tyler is awesome.

  • jason in colorado says:

    RR, why do you never go after journalists who’s job is, in theory, to report the truth and “protect the public” as they claim? Why do you never go after the legal profession? Lawyers, particularly, the ALTA, are always blabbering away about their “duty” to protect the innocent? The only way to change things in this arena is to get that info out to the people. One dude doing a podcast in his garage is fun, but it ain’t going to cut it. The massive media infrastructure is already there. They need to do their jobs or just admit they are just in it for the money, just like Monsanto, and quit the charade. Rant over. out.

  • jason in colorado says:

    Oh, and by the way, this style of corruption is not isolated to agbiz. It’s the same thing for the defense industry, the legal profession (ALTA), big unions, big energy, etc. This is the reason why you want small government. If you think big gov protects the people you are kidding yourself.

  • BigD_IU says:

    I agree Jason … and don’t want you to feel like you’re being attacked Kelly. Congress is owned by these companies and the groups that lobby for them. There are some very good documentaries available if you are interested I can provide titles from Netflix.

  • BigD_IU says:

    Peter/Tyler, I think Rich is just teasing us about the Tshirts … The good news is I’m probably a size smaller than I was when I became a RR addict. My friends tell me I need a support group!

  • Kelly Mahoney says:

    I’m willing to come out form under my rock. Prove your comment. Provide a half dozen links to peer reviewed research studies (not media links) that show how GMOs harm bodies and ecosystem.

  • Kelly Mahoney says:

    Not interested in documentaries on Netflix. Provide peer reviewed research studies. Don’t tell me that Monsanto owns all the scientific journals. Asked JasonRH to do the same.

  • Hughb says:

    Great podcast. I just got to listen, then went to donate at indiegogo but it says it’s closed. Anywhere else to pitch in?

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