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The ocean doesn’t care about your trophies, your rankings, or your reputation. It only demands one thing: your ability to read its rhythms and surrender to its power while staying true to yourself.
My guest today is John John Florence, a three-time World Surf League Champion and arguably the most naturally gifted surfer of his generation. Born and raised on the North Shore of Oahu, literally in the shadow of Pipeline, John John’s relationship with the ocean runs deeper than competition—it’s spiritual, symbiotic, and profoundly instructive about the nature of flow itself.
In 2024, after claiming his third world title, John John made a decision that sent shockwaves through the surfing world: he stepped away from competitive surfing. Not because of injury or burnout, but because becoming a father had crystallized what truly matters.
“It’s the process that I look forward to… It’s not about winning. It’s about just getting better.”
– JOHN JOHN FLORENCE
Today, we discuss:
- Stepping Away from Competition at Peak Performance
- The Mental Game of Elite Surfing
- Sailing Adventures & Ocean Mastery
- Fatherhood & Redefining Success
- Finding Flow Through Surrender
For those who prefer a visual experience, the conversation is available on YouTube. As always, the audio version streams wild and free on Apple Podcasts and Spotify.
Peace + Plants,

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- Olympic’s: John John’s biography
- Article: John John Florence Talks Olympic Preparations
- Article: John John Florence on Rediscovering His Surf Mojo and ‘Going All In’ for Olympic Gold
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