“Live a life filled with wonder and curiosity. Ask questions.”
I don’t consider myself religious.
But I am spiritually curious; deeply interested in faith.
From Sikh kundalini master Guru Singh and Buddhist monk / tea master WuDe to iconoclast Christian pastor Rob Bell, the exploration of faith in its varying incarnations has been a fascinating, recurring theme of this show.
Today, I continue the tradition with Dr. Drew Sams, senior pastor and head of staff at Bel Air Presbyterian Church in Los Angeles.
Hardly conventional, Drew is many things. Life-long surfer. Avid ultra-runner. Passionate environmentalist. Devoted family man deeply interested in social justice, nutrition, and wellness. And a progressive doctor of divinity with a take on the Christian faith that is inspiring audiences in Los Angeles and across the world.
I think Jesus was an extraordinary guy. But I freely admit that conversations on the subject of organized religion can leave me queasy. Perhaps it’s my personal baggage. I don’t know. But I do know I really enjoyed this particular exchange — grounded and relatable, Drew made it fun.
Today I unpack this pastor’s personal journey to faith. It’s a conversation about Drew’s evolving perspective on God and Christianity.
It’s about the distinction between literal, allegorical and personal interpretations of the Bible.
It’s about the relationship between faith, consumerism and environmentalism.
It’s a conversation about masculinity — cultural ideation around what a man “should be” versus the strength that can be mined through compassion & emotional vulnerability.
But mostly it’s an engaging exchange about our collective moral responsibility to ourselves, our fellow humans, and the planet at large.
Drew was great.
So let’s talk to a pastor!
Peace + Plants,
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- Connect with Drew: Website | Facebook | Twitter | Instagram
- Connect with Bel Air Presbyterian Church: Website | Facebook | Twitter | Instagram
- Bel Air Church: Watch and listen to Sermons at Bel Air Presbyterian Church
- News Wire: Bel Air Church to Supply Thanksgiving Meals for 13,000
- Eater Los Angeles: LA Church Cafes Provide a Fresh Blend of Jesus, Community, and Coffee by Joshua Lurie
- Beverly Hills Courier: Los Angeles Celebrates Sunrise Easter Services at the Hollywood Bowl, Forum
- Seminary: Fuller Theological Seminary Pasadena. CA
- Website: Blessed Earth – Inspiring Faithful Stewardship of all Creation
- Book: VB6: Eat Vegan Before 6:00 to Lose Weight and Restore Your Health . . . for Good* by Mark Bittman
- Book: Finding Ultra by Rich Roll
- Documentary: The True Cost* by Andrew Morgan
- Documentary: “Minimalism: A Documentary About The Important Things” presented by The Minimalists, directed by Matt D’Avella
- Trail Race: Sean O’Brien | 100k / 50mi / 50k / 26mi at Malibu Creek State Park
- Trail Race: The Ray Miller 50/50 at Point Mugu State Park
- Animal Rights Organization: PETA: People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals
- Charity: Hope Heals – We redefine healing and manifest hope
Notable People Discussed
- Anthony Zimmitti: Drummer of The 88
- Rob Bell: author, speaker, former pastor and podcast guest
- Mark Bittman: food journalist, author, and former columnist for The New York Times
- Russel Simmons: legendary Rap / Hip-hop artist, entrepreneur, producer, author and podcast guest
- Andrew Morgan: Director: The True Cost*
- Joshua Fields Milburn: Co-creator of “Minimalism: A Documentary About The Important Things”
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