“Hate is illogical and hating other human beings is something that is outside of our nature”
One minute you’re a heart surgeon. Blink once and you’re hosting the most watched television program in Middle East history. Blink again and you’re exiled from the homeland that made you famous.
The story of Bassem Youssef is legend. But there’s far more to this tale than meets the eye.
Dubbed the Jon Stewart of the Arab World, today’s guest is an Egyptian cardiothoracic surgeon and member of the Royal College of Surgeons who caught lightning in a bottle making catchy 5-minute YouTube videos in his Cairo laundry room. A flash moment later, he’s a media mega-star, the man behind a controversial, first-of-it’s-kind political satire program entitled Al-Bernameg that garnered a massive and unprecedented 30 million viewers every week.
Insightful as it was incisive, Al-Bernameg received global acclaim and coverage in some of the world’s biggest media outlets, culminating in Bassem appearing on The Daily Show with Jon Stewart – twice. But Bassem’s bold criticism of the ruling powers led to accusations that he was disrupting public order, insulting Islam and its Armed Forces. Over 120 complaints were lodged with the General Prosecutor’s office. Tens of lawsuits were filed. He was publicly smeared. Opponents put his theatre under seige, even jamming his satellite signal during airing.
Then came the arrest — a detainment that brought Bassem to the realization that his media career in Eqypt had come to a swift and decisive end, culminating in Bassem fleeing his homeland for the United States.
Nonetheless, Bassem’s work made an indelible imprint on Middle East culture. He landed on TIME magazine’s annual 100 Most Influential People list. He was awarded the International Press Freedom Award by the CPJ and chosen by Foreign Policy magazine as one of the global thinkers.
The focus of the acclaimed documentary Tickling Giants, Bassem is the author of Revolution for Dummies: Laughing Through the Arab Spring. And when he isn’t developing television projects or performing stand up comedy, he hosts a recently launched podcast entitled Remade In America.
But Bassem’s latest act could be his most impactful to date: the quest to revolutionize nutrition and health across the Middle East.
As passionate about the plant-based lifestyle as he is about political satire, Bassem is on an unlikely yet zealous quest to leverage his medical background and massive influence across the Middle East (10+ million twitter followers!) to better educate the region on the inextricable connection between nutrition, illness and optimal health.
This is a powerful conversation about how one doctor became a lightning rod media figure in the cross hairs of political power and social unrest.
It’s about fake news, free speech and the cultural imperative of political satire in responsible citizenship.
And it’s a discourse on how this man’s personal evolution and relationship with food motivated a desire to redress the chronic lifestyle illness epidemic America has exported across the Middle East.
Note: we conducted this interview at Bassem’s apartment in the midst of a crazy LA heatwave that left my studio with a power outage. Therefore we did not capture this episode on video and apologies if the sound quality isn’t entirely up to par. However, it was live-streamed to Bassem’s Facebook page (hence his questions for me near the end for his audience). Finally, thanks to my friend Jason Purdy for making the initial introduction.
I sincerely hope you enjoy the exchange
Peace + Plants,
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Background, Context & Reference
- Connect With Bassem: Website | Facebook | Twitter | Instagram
- Facebook Live: Video of Podcast with Rich & Bassem
- Remade in America Podcast: On Apple Podcasts | On Android
- Film: Tickling Giants with Bassem Youssef | Watch The Trailer
- Book: Revolution for Dummies: Laughing through the Arab Spring* by Bassem Youssef
- Blog: How I turned to plant based diet? by Bassem Youssef
- CBS: The Late Show with Stephen Colbert: Bassem Youssef Worries He’s In The Middle Eastern Version Of ‘Get Out’
- Comedy Central: The Daily Show with Trevor Noah: Bassem Youssef – Preparing America with “Revolution for Dummies”
- BBC: Culture – Bassem Youssef: The wild story of ‘Egypt’s Jon Stewart’ by Sharif Paget
- CNN: A comedian in exile by Chris Moody
- Deadline Hollywood: Comic/Political Satirist Bassem Youssef Signs With CAA by Anita Busch
- The Guardian: Egypt’s censorship of comedian Bassem Youssef sends ‘wrong message’
- Los Angeles Times: ‘Egypt’s Jon Stewart’ is living in exile and trying to make his satire work in America by Jeffrey Fleishman
- YouTube: The Daily Show – An Egyptian Satirist in America – Bassem Youssef | Comedy Central
- YouTube: Bassem Youssef: Why we should laugh at leaders | The Economist
- Documentary: Forks Over Knives*: by T. Colin Campbell
Notable People Discussed
- Michael Greger, M.D.: Physician, Speaker, and NY Times bestselling author & founder of NutritonFacts.org and (2x) podcast guest
- T. Colin Campbell: biochemist who specializes in the effect of nutrition on long-term health, author of The China Study* and podcast guest
- Caldwell Esselstyn:American physician, author and former Olympic rowing champion
- Dr.Dean Ornish: physician and founder of Preventive Medicine Research Institute in Sausalito, California
- Dr. John McDougall: Physician & author who has written extensively on the benefits of a low-fat, whole foods, plant-based vegan diet
- Dr. Scott Stoll: Board certified specialist in Physical Medicine and Rehabilitation
- Jon Stewart: comedian, writer, producer, director, political commentator, actor; hosted The Daily Show, a satirical news program on Comedy Central, from 1999 to 2015.
Past Episodes Relevant to Today’s Conversation
- RRP #325: Cardiologist Kim Williams, M.D. Wants To Eradicate Heart Disease
- RRP #199: Michael Greger, MD On How Not To Die
- RRP #007: Michael Greger, MD on Omega-3’s, Protein & Plantpowered Performance
- RRP #079: T. Colin Campbell on Disease Prevention/Reversal
- RRP #140: Robert Ostfeld On Eradicating Lifestyle Disease
- RRP #373: Utkarsh Ambudkar Is Breaking Hollywood Stereotypes
Thanks to Jason Camiolo for audio engineering, production and show notes. Video, editing and graphics by Margo Lubin and Blake Curtis. Reece Robinson for portraits and photos. Theme music by Ana Leimma.
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